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	<title>Comments on: Ninth-grade high school</title>
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	<description>Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs</description>
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		<title>By: Beeman</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2005/08/31/ninth-grade-high-school/#comment-26858</link>
		<dc:creator>Beeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Sep 2005 02:19:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"At least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats. It's the only explanation"&lt;/i&gt;

&lt;i&gt;That is a terrifying thought!&lt;/i&gt;

The public educational system is pretty much built upon bullying, at all levels, and the teachers and administrators have their own pecking orders.  It it any wonder, that despite what they say, they are unable to really "do anything" about bullies?


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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;At least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats. It&#8217;s the only explanation&#8221;</i></p>
<p><i>That is a terrifying thought!</i></p>
<p>The public educational system is pretty much built upon bullying, at all levels, and the teachers and administrators have their own pecking orders.  It it any wonder, that despite what they say, they are unable to really &#8220;do anything&#8221; about bullies?</p>
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		<title>By: georgelarson</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2005/08/31/ninth-grade-high-school/#comment-26857</link>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 20:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"And the mentally fast, of course"

The smart ones were protected in special classes in my experience. It would not surprise me if the smart ones bullied each other.  

"At least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats. It's the only explanation"

That is a terrifying thought!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;And the mentally fast, of course&#8221;</p>
<p>The smart ones were protected in special classes in my experience. It would not surprise me if the smart ones bullied each other.  </p>
<p>&#8220;At least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats. It&#8217;s the only explanation&#8221;</p>
<p>That is a terrifying thought!</p>
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		<title>By: Beeman</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2005/08/31/ninth-grade-high-school/#comment-26856</link>
		<dc:creator>Beeman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 01 Sep 2005 19:17:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;My recollection of high school, I attended 3, was bullying was worst among peers.&lt;/i&gt;

Same here.

&lt;i&gt;The older and larger students wanted nothing to do with the younger and smaller ones. I had no trouble dealing with upper classmen.&lt;/i&gt;

In my case, some of them respected me enough to at least try to protect me from my same-age peers.

&lt;i&gt;The ones with the worst bullying problems were new, the mentally slow or the uncoordinated.&lt;/i&gt;

And the mentally fast, of course - especially if they happened also to be freethinkers and visionaries.  And the teachers encourage such behavior.

&lt;i&gt;I don't see this proposal as useful.&lt;/i&gt;

Neither do I, but it's typical educrat* thinking.  For them, everyone must absolutely be crammed into classrooms with "peers" who cannot be more than ten months older or younger.

* - Bullies, at least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats.  It's the only explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>My recollection of high school, I attended 3, was bullying was worst among peers.</i></p>
<p>Same here.</p>
<p><i>The older and larger students wanted nothing to do with the younger and smaller ones. I had no trouble dealing with upper classmen.</i></p>
<p>In my case, some of them respected me enough to at least try to protect me from my same-age peers.</p>
<p><i>The ones with the worst bullying problems were new, the mentally slow or the uncoordinated.</i></p>
<p>And the mentally fast, of course - especially if they happened also to be freethinkers and visionaries.  And the teachers encourage such behavior.</p>
<p><i>I don&#8217;t see this proposal as useful.</i></p>
<p>Neither do I, but it&#8217;s typical educrat* thinking.  For them, everyone must absolutely be crammed into classrooms with &#8220;peers&#8221; who cannot be more than ten months older or younger.</p>
<p>* - Bullies, at least the smarter ones, go into college and graduate as educrats.  It&#8217;s the only explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperSub</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2005/08/31/ninth-grade-high-school/#comment-26855</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 19:37:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the end it comes down to what Joanne pointed out...without correction of the problem at the HS, no real change will occur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the end it comes down to what Joanne pointed out&#8230;without correction of the problem at the HS, no real change will occur.</p>
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		<title>By: georgelarson</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2005/08/31/ninth-grade-high-school/#comment-26854</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 31 Aug 2005 18:13:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My recollection of high school, I attended 3, was bullying was worst among peers.  The older and larger students wanted nothing to do with the younger and smaller ones.  I had no trouble dealing with upper classmen.  The ones with the worst bullying problems were new, the mentally slow or the uncoordinated.  The small ones were usually left alone because it would have been like kicking a puppy.  Of course I could say the same about the stupid and uncoordinated, but that is not how my peers saw it. I don't see this proposal as useful.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My recollection of high school, I attended 3, was bullying was worst among peers.  The older and larger students wanted nothing to do with the younger and smaller ones.  I had no trouble dealing with upper classmen.  The ones with the worst bullying problems were new, the mentally slow or the uncoordinated.  The small ones were usually left alone because it would have been like kicking a puppy.  Of course I could say the same about the stupid and uncoordinated, but that is not how my peers saw it. I don&#8217;t see this proposal as useful.</p>
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