Comments on: ‘A safe place for kids to be smart’ http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/ Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:26:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Indigo Warrior http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31864 Indigo Warrior Wed, 03 May 2006 23:08:42 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31864 I know many white working-class slums that may speak English instead of Ebonics, but whose attitude towards intellect is exactly the same. I know many white working-class slums that may speak English instead of Ebonics, but whose attitude towards intellect is exactly the same.

]]> By: Cardinal Fang http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31863 Cardinal Fang Mon, 01 May 2006 17:39:53 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31863 <i>Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join.</i> Apparently so. <a href="http://www.njorators.org/njhistory.htm" rel="nofollow">Their history page</a> says the kids are "<i>primarily</i> of African-American descent," implying some are not, and the bottom picture shows a group of girls one of whom appears to be white. The Orators evidently emphasize teaching standard English to kids whose native dialect is African American Vernacular English (Ebonics). They also "focus[] on ... an appreciation of African-American literature." Those missions will appeal to black parents more than non-black parents. That's not racial discrimination; it's appropriate specialization. Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join.

Apparently so. Their history page says the kids are “primarily of African-American descent,” implying some are not, and the bottom picture shows a group of girls one of whom appears to be white.

The Orators evidently emphasize teaching standard English to kids whose native dialect is African American Vernacular English (Ebonics). They also “focus[] on … an appreciation of African-American literature.” Those missions will appeal to black parents more than non-black parents. That’s not racial discrimination; it’s appropriate specialization.

]]> By: Jack Tanner http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31862 Jack Tanner Mon, 01 May 2006 16:26:11 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31862 'Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join.' I think we already know the answer to that question. ‘Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join.’

I think we already know the answer to that question.

]]> By: Amritas http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31861 Amritas Mon, 01 May 2006 00:20:08 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31861 <i>Only if you assume that all the white folks you speak to are racist.</i> They are. Racism is the Original Sin of melanin-deficient demons. Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join. Only if you assume that all the white folks you speak to are racist.

They are. Racism is the Original Sin of melanin-deficient demons.

Seriously, I wonder if the Orators would allow non-black students to join.

]]> By: boo http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31860 boo Sun, 30 Apr 2006 23:48:08 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31860 "You are representing your race when you speak." Only if you assume that all the white folks you speak to are racist. “You are representing your race when you speak.”

Only if you assume that all the white folks you speak to are racist.

]]> By: ricki http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31859 ricki Sun, 30 Apr 2006 12:24:49 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31859 It makes me sad that it's necessary for kids to have a "safe place to be smart." If everywhere was "safe" to be smart - if safety while being smart was not an issue - I suspect there'd be a lot fewer problems in the community than there are now. It makes me sad that it’s necessary for kids to have a “safe place to be smart.”

If everywhere was “safe” to be smart - if safety while being smart was not an issue - I suspect there’d be a lot fewer problems in the community than there are now.

]]> By: Walter E. Wallis http://joannejacobs.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31858 Walter E. Wallis Sun, 30 Apr 2006 02:58:31 +0000 http://joannejacobsblog.com/2006/04/29/a-safe-place-for-kids-to-be-smart/#comment-31858 If an enemy did to Blacks what their "friends" have done these past 25 years or so, they would rightly go to war in retribution. If an enemy did to Blacks what their “friends” have done these past 25 years or so, they would rightly go to war in retribution.

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