Teaching Too-Sweet and Chiquita

Teachers who don’t go through ed school end up teaching poor kids with funny names, said Reg Weaver, head of the National Education Association, at a speech in Tulsa. From the Tulsa World:

(Weaver) called on higher standards for teacher certification, noting, “There’s a group out there that thinks all you need to be a teacher is a bachelor’s degree, a background check and to pass a computerized test, but you know they’re not going to send them to teach where the wealthy folks are.

“They’re going to send them to teach where Ray-Ray, Little Willie, Little Man, Too-sweet, and Chiquita are in the classroom.”

Offensive and unprofessional, says Dave Saba of ABCTE (American Board for Certification of Teacher Excellence), which was Weaver’s intended target.

10 Responses to “Teaching Too-Sweet and Chiquita”


  1. 1 Andromeda Nov 6th, 2007 at 4:02 am

    Gosh, and here I just ended up teaching in a prep school with lots of kids named Walter. Oh, the humanity.

  2. 2 thaprof Nov 6th, 2007 at 5:02 am

    I believe that exactly zero of the high school teachers that I had were certified education majors. They all had degrees in their areas of teaching, and many had Masters degrees–again, in their disciplines, not education.

  3. 3 Cal Nov 6th, 2007 at 6:31 am

    If all that was needed was passing a hard test, then it’d be quite the opposite–the suburbs would be getting the non-ed school teachers.

  4. 4 Fred Drinkwater Nov 6th, 2007 at 9:14 am

    I’m just … flabbergasted that Weaver can keep his job after saying that. I’m sure if he was a reality-show bounty hunter, or a syndicated sportscaster, he’d be updating his resume right now.

  5. 5 Malcolm Kirkpatrick Nov 6th, 2007 at 9:28 am

    The lecturers in my College of Education classes instructed us that real-world experience is the best teacher and that lectures and classes are obsolete. They managed not to smile or drop a reference to Kurt Godel.

    Has anyone ever conducted a statistical, empirical comparison of: A, students whose teachers had College of Education degrees and B, students of teachers who had degrees in their subject area and who then received on-the-job training as teachers’ aids, department gofers, and in-house substitutes?

    Rather than pay for 30 useless college credits in Education, prospective teachers could get paid and learn their job-related skills on-the-job. Additionally, schools could assess prospective teachers in a real-world test of their skills.

    College of Education credits add nothing to teacher competence. They serve only to protect the illusion of expertise on which the State-monopoly education industry depends.

    This is a better idea.

  6. 6 Malcolm Kirkpatrick Nov 6th, 2007 at 9:34 am

    Holland, “How to build a Better Teacher”
    Policy Review, April, 2001`

    http://www.policyreview.org/APR01/holland.html

  7. 7 allen Nov 6th, 2007 at 1:11 pm
  8. 8 Bill Leonard Nov 6th, 2007 at 2:48 pm

    “College of Education credits add nothing to teacher competence. They serve only to protect the illusion of expertise on which the State-monopoly education industry depends.”

    Such required courses also guarantee education faculty jobs, which is probably what the game really is about.

    Bill

  9. 9 Bandit Nov 7th, 2007 at 6:36 am

    Yeah – the truth hurts

  10. 10 Malcolm Kirkpatrick Nov 7th, 2007 at 6:51 am

    Hi!, Allen, thanks for the corrected link.

    Leonard, on a per employee basis, post-secondary education is the larger fraud. Want to study Russian history or the novels of George Elliot? Read a book or ten. You don’t need to kiss some professor’s
    toes. At least attendance at college is voluntary, so students (if not taxpayers) volunteer to get defrauded.

    In terms of total cost (including the opportunity cost to students of the time they spend in school) US K-12 school is the larger fraud.

    I wonder if mechanical aptitude, like language fluency, depends on early exposure.

    Last night’s episode of Modern Marvels, “Cotton” mentioned Richard Arkwright, so I looked him up.

    Richard Arkwright the youngest of thirteen children was born in Preston in 1732. Richard’s parents were very poor and could not afford to send him to school and instead arranged for him to be taught to read and write by his cousin Ellen.

    Richard became a barber’s apprentice. However, he was an ambitious young man and had a strong desire to run his own company. In 1762 Arkwright started a wig-making business. This involved him travelling the country collecting people’s discarded hair.

    While on his travels, Arkwright heard about the attempts being made to produce new machines for the textile industry. Arkwright also met John Kay, a clockmaker from Warrington, who had been busy for some time trying to produce a new spinning-machine with another man, Thomas Highs of Leigh. Kay and Highs had run out of money and had been forced to abandon the project.

    Arkwright was impressed by Kay and offered to employ him to make this new machine. Arkwright also recruited other local craftsman to help, and it was not long before the team produced the Spinning-Frame. Arkwright’s machine involved three sets of paired rollers that turned at different speeds. While these rollers produced yarn of the correct thickness, a set of spindles twisted the fibres firmly together. The machine was able to produce a thread that was far stronger than that made by the Spinning-Jenny produced by James Hargreaves….

    Richard Arkwright died in 1792. The Gentleman’s Magazine claimed that on his death, Arkwright was worth over £500,000.

    Not bad for a kid with no school at all. Do you suppose Ellen had a degree in Education, Mr. Weaver?

    Speaking of weavers…

    James Hargreaves …”had no formal education and could neither read nor write. Although no likeness of him is known to exist, he was described as a tall, well-built man with black hair, with an interest in mechanics despite his lack of letters.”

    Anyone got anything on the education of the unsung hero, Thomas Highs?

    Then there’s this contribution to the industrial revolution:…

    Cyrus Hall McCormick (February 15, 1809 – May 13, 1884) was an American inventor (of Irish descent) who developed the mechanical reaper. His new machine combined many of the steps involved in harvesting crops, greatly increased crop yields, decreased the number of field hands needed for the harvest, lowered costs, and revolutionized farming.
    McCormick had little education. His father, Robert McCormick, was a farmer and blacksmith who invented many useful devices to use on his farm. Robert had tried to invent a reaper (a machine that harvests grain), but failed.

    Cyrus McCormick invented a horse-drawn reaper that used back-and-forth-moving cutting blades and a revolving device that pushed the cut grain onto the back of the machine. He patented his “Improvement in Machines for Reaping Small Grain” on June 21, 1834. This very noisy machine is said to have scared the horses, but it made farming much more efficient.

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