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	<title>Comments on: Strip for the vice principal</title>
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	<description>Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs</description>
	<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 03:29:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Suzan</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-73376</link>
		<dc:creator>Suzan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Apr 2008 03:51:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This kind of thing (along with principals molesting kids, school buses flying off cliffs or wrecking, drugs in middle schools, &#38; kids not being watched in general) is the reason I home school my two boys. If they are in my care at all times, nobody can harm them. More parents should start taking care of their own kids. Home schooling was the way to do it 200 years ago, so what's wrong with it now?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This kind of thing (along with principals molesting kids, school buses flying off cliffs or wrecking, drugs in middle schools, &amp; kids not being watched in general) is the reason I home school my two boys. If they are in my care at all times, nobody can harm them. More parents should start taking care of their own kids. Home schooling was the way to do it 200 years ago, so what&#8217;s wrong with it now?</p>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-73361</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Apr 2008 23:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not tell these people and organizations how you feel?

Vice Principal Kerry Wilson
Principal Robert Beeman
Superintendent Mark Tregaskes
Safford, Arizona Middle School

734 11Th Street
Safford, AZ 85546
Phone Number: (928)348-7040

http://az.localschooldirectory.com/schools_info.php/school_id/3495</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not tell these people and organizations how you feel?</p>
<p>Vice Principal Kerry Wilson<br />
Principal Robert Beeman<br />
Superintendent Mark Tregaskes<br />
Safford, Arizona Middle School</p>
<p>734 11Th Street<br />
Safford, AZ 85546<br />
Phone Number: (928)348-7040</p>
<p><a href="http://az.localschooldirectory.com/schools_info.php/school_id/3495" rel="nofollow">http://az.localschooldirectory.com/schools_info.php/school_id/3495</a></p>
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		<title>By: Skittles suspension at Joanne Jacobs</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-72286</link>
		<dc:creator>Skittles suspension at Joanne Jacobs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Mar 2008 10:46:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Good thing he didn&#8217;t try to score some ibuprofen. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Good thing he didn&#8217;t try to score some ibuprofen. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: jose</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-72179</link>
		<dc:creator>jose</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Mar 2008 21:36:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That makes me sick. The more I think about the rights that teachers wish they had in school, the more I see these situations and realize why we have some of these decisions in place. Freakin' Advil. Sick.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That makes me sick. The more I think about the rights that teachers wish they had in school, the more I see these situations and realize why we have some of these decisions in place. Freakin&#8217; Advil. Sick.</p>
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		<title>By: Margo/Mom</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71898</link>
		<dc:creator>Margo/Mom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 22:21:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe that the courts have ruled that while police have to abide by a standard of probably cause, school personnel may conduct searches based on a lesser standard of reasonable suspicion. Although that does raise the question of suspicion of what--aspirin? acetaminephen? midol??</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe that the courts have ruled that while police have to abide by a standard of probably cause, school personnel may conduct searches based on a lesser standard of reasonable suspicion. Although that does raise the question of suspicion of what&#8211;aspirin? acetaminephen? midol??</p>
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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71885</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 19:18:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Someone overheard someone else saying that a 3rd person might have seen the principal take an aspirin.  That is obvious probable cause to strip-search the principal.  Let's do that in front of the entire student body - to ensure we have zero tolerance for drugs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Someone overheard someone else saying that a 3rd person might have seen the principal take an aspirin.  That is obvious probable cause to strip-search the principal.  Let&#8217;s do that in front of the entire student body - to ensure we have zero tolerance for drugs.</p>
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		<title>By: Engineer-Poet</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71875</link>
		<dc:creator>Engineer-Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 17:55:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;&lt;i&gt;if a school official believes thereâ€™s probable cause of the commission of a crime, then they should call the police&lt;/i&gt;&lt;/blockquote&gt;Possession of ibuprofen is not a crime.&#160; Why would the police bother to show up?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p><i>if a school official believes thereâ€™s probable cause of the commission of a crime, then they should call the police</i></p></blockquote>
<p>Possession of ibuprofen is not a crime.&nbsp; Why would the police bother to show up?</p>
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		<title>By: Quincy</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71848</link>
		<dc:creator>Quincy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 06:42:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;i&gt;"It sounds crazy, but isnâ€™t the whole drug war crazy? Didnâ€™t we learn anything from prohibition?"&lt;/i&gt;

Yeah, they learned that you have to browbeat the majority of people into believing drugs are wrong so they'll roll over and accept the cost of the debacle.  They've learned, and the lessons are bad for us all.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><i>&#8220;It sounds crazy, but isnâ€™t the whole drug war crazy? Didnâ€™t we learn anything from prohibition?&#8221;</i></p>
<p>Yeah, they learned that you have to browbeat the majority of people into believing drugs are wrong so they&#8217;ll roll over and accept the cost of the debacle.  They&#8217;ve learned, and the lessons are bad for us all.</p>
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		<title>By: Joanne</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71839</link>
		<dc:creator>Joanne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:23:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're right, Cardinal. Kerry Wilson is a man. He searched the girl's backpack, finding no drugs, and then asked his female admin to do the strip search in the nurse's office.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re right, Cardinal. Kerry Wilson is a man. He searched the girl&#8217;s backpack, finding no drugs, and then asked his female admin to do the strip search in the nurse&#8217;s office.</p>
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		<title>By: Cardinal Fang</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/03/06/strip-for-the-vice-principal/#comment-71836</link>
		<dc:creator>Cardinal Fang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Mar 2008 04:04:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>In the actual case, it says "Wilson [the vice principal] then showed Redding [the student] the pills &lt;i&gt;he&lt;/i&gt; had seized.... Wilson then asked [Helen] Romero [his administrative assistant] to take Redding into the nurse's office and conduct a search of her person."

As I read it, Wilson, the vice principal, is male. He asked his administrative assistant, a woman, to search the student.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In the actual case, it says &#8220;Wilson [the vice principal] then showed Redding [the student] the pills <i>he</i> had seized&#8230;. Wilson then asked [Helen] Romero [his administrative assistant] to take Redding into the nurse&#8217;s office and conduct a search of her person.&#8221;</p>
<p>As I read it, Wilson, the vice principal, is male. He asked his administrative assistant, a woman, to search the student.</p>
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