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	<description>Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs</description>
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		<title>By: The CEA Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 167th Carnival of Education!</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73969</link>
		<dc:creator>The CEA Blog &#187; Blog Archive &#187; The 167th Carnival of Education!</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 16 Apr 2008 02:52:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Ahh, credit recovery. This time, Joanne Jacobs takes a look at the recovery mess in NYC.  [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Ahh, credit recovery. This time, Joanne Jacobs takes a look at the recovery mess in NYC.  [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Look out</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73865</link>
		<dc:creator>Look out</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 00:46:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cal,

I've got no problem with credit by examination, but you've got to make sure the examination really measures something.


When the test standard is too much lower than the local school's standard, you've got a problem.

Should  a high school student get credit for a writing class, for instance, without doing any writing?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cal,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve got no problem with credit by examination, but you&#8217;ve got to make sure the examination really measures something.</p>
<p>When the test standard is too much lower than the local school&#8217;s standard, you&#8217;ve got a problem.</p>
<p>Should  a high school student get credit for a writing class, for instance, without doing any writing?</p>
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		<title>By: dkzody</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73860</link>
		<dc:creator>dkzody</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 19:06:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Our district is trying to change its lousy graduation rates and this is one way they do it.  Of course, I seem to remember that the reason we now have exit exams in California is because the public said graduates didn't know anything when they left high school.  How does credit recovery fix that problem?

And Cal, who do you think should assess students?  It seems to me that the state has pretty much taken that over with all the standardized tests.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Our district is trying to change its lousy graduation rates and this is one way they do it.  Of course, I seem to remember that the reason we now have exit exams in California is because the public said graduates didn&#8217;t know anything when they left high school.  How does credit recovery fix that problem?</p>
<p>And Cal, who do you think should assess students?  It seems to me that the state has pretty much taken that over with all the standardized tests.</p>
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		<title>By: mike curtis</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73856</link>
		<dc:creator>mike curtis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 18:23:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Best would be to allow students to substitute a test performance for a grade."

Perhaps a letter entitled "How Cool I Am" could be substituted for a diploma?

Cal,   learning work habits and academic achievement are mutually supportive.  Your feelings on teachers job performance notwithstanding, assessing students is not a "power" teacher's wield, it is instead, a learned and practiced skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Best would be to allow students to substitute a test performance for a grade.&#8221;</p>
<p>Perhaps a letter entitled &#8220;How Cool I Am&#8221; could be substituted for a diploma?</p>
<p>Cal,   learning work habits and academic achievement are mutually supportive.  Your feelings on teachers job performance notwithstanding, assessing students is not a &#8220;power&#8221; teacher&#8217;s wield, it is instead, a learned and practiced skill.</p>
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		<title>By: Cal</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73846</link>
		<dc:creator>Cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 15:21:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>School isn't about learning work habits, but academic achievement. I have no idea what the "credit recovery" plan is, but I sure approve of any plan that takes away power from teachers to assess students. They do a very poor job.

Best would be to allow students to substitute a test performance for a grade.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>School isn&#8217;t about learning work habits, but academic achievement. I have no idea what the &#8220;credit recovery&#8221; plan is, but I sure approve of any plan that takes away power from teachers to assess students. They do a very poor job.</p>
<p>Best would be to allow students to substitute a test performance for a grade.</p>
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		<title>By: Give Credit Where Credit is Due &#171; Public Education and PR</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73844</link>
		<dc:creator>Give Credit Where Credit is Due &#171; Public Education and PR</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 14:37:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] schools New York City principals are letting students make up classes they failed in efforts to boost graduation rates. The &#8220;credit recovery&#8221; program gives students a chance to write essays or answer [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] schools New York City principals are letting students make up classes they failed in efforts to boost graduation rates. The &#8220;credit recovery&#8221; program gives students a chance to write essays or answer [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Walter</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73839</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:48:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Rather than forming a team to look into the underlying causes of why little Johnny doesn’t come to school, or why our teaching methods are so disengaging for so many students, a team has been formed to look into why credit has been earned by "at-risk" kids.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Rather than forming a team to look into the underlying causes of why little Johnny doesn’t come to school, or why our teaching methods are so disengaging for so many students, a team has been formed to look into why credit has been earned by &#8220;at-risk&#8221; kids.</p>
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		<title>By: markm</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73838</link>
		<dc:creator>markm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 11:43:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mark: The only difference between this and one of those “Send $500 and an essay on your life’s experiences to receive a diploma” deals is $500. &lt;i&gt;That&lt;/i&gt; might require the kid to work &lt;i&gt;at something&lt;/i&gt; to earn the money, if not the diploma.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mark: The only difference between this and one of those “Send $500 and an essay on your life’s experiences to receive a diploma” deals is $500. <i>That</i> might require the kid to work <i>at something</i> to earn the money, if not the diploma.</p>
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		<title>By: Michael L</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73814</link>
		<dc:creator>Michael L</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 01:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This seemed sort of quaint to me. I haven't run into anyone for quite a while who is still taking seriously the old-fashioned idea that a high school diploma should indicate some mastery of knowledge or skill.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This seemed sort of quaint to me. I haven&#8217;t run into anyone for quite a while who is still taking seriously the old-fashioned idea that a high school diploma should indicate some mastery of knowledge or skill.</p>
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		<title>By: SuperSub</title>
		<link>http://joannejacobs.com/2008/04/11/ez-pass/#comment-73787</link>
		<dc:creator>SuperSub</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 14:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>We've become a society where identity is valued more than accomplishments... our current crop of heroes are immature, selfish train wrecks from Hollywood. Is it a suprise that having a diploma means more than earning it or that sax or race mean more than experience in Presidential elections?

All of this is tied together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>We&#8217;ve become a society where identity is valued more than accomplishments&#8230; our current crop of heroes are immature, selfish train wrecks from Hollywood. Is it a suprise that having a diploma means more than earning it or that sax or race mean more than experience in Presidential elections?</p>
<p>All of this is tied together.</p>
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