Comments on: Rich and rejected in Manhattan http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/ Free-linking and thinking on education by Joanne Jacobs Fri, 21 Nov 2008 06:51:29 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6.2 By: Crimson Wife http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79491 Crimson Wife Mon, 07 Jul 2008 18:30:53 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79491 As someone who began homeschooling because our family could not afford the astronomical tuition charged by area private schools, I can't help but gloat that there will be more former homeschoolers at Harvard next year than graduates of $31k/year Dalton. Sorry, I just can't feel sorry for these overprivileged kids who expected an Ivy admission handed to them on a silver platter just because Daddy is a managing director at Goldman Sachs or the like... As someone who began homeschooling because our family could not afford the astronomical tuition charged by area private schools, I can’t help but gloat that there will be more former homeschoolers at Harvard next year than graduates of $31k/year Dalton. Sorry, I just can’t feel sorry for these overprivileged kids who expected an Ivy admission handed to them on a silver platter just because Daddy is a managing director at Goldman Sachs or the like…

]]> By: Me http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79432 Me Sat, 05 Jul 2008 02:42:42 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79432 "I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy." Yep, that's it. We're all "jus' jellus." *rolls eyes* No, I have to agree with the commenter above. It's like these parents are trying to purchase their children's way into these elite schools. I just happen to think it's funny that it's blown up in their faces. “I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy.”

Yep, that’s it. We’re all “jus’ jellus.” *rolls eyes*

No, I have to agree with the commenter above. It’s like these parents are trying to purchase their children’s way into these elite schools. I just happen to think it’s funny that it’s blown up in their faces.

]]> By: Dizzy’s Ten Post Round-Up « The Dark Diva Diaries http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79405 Dizzy’s Ten Post Round-Up « The Dark Diva Diaries Fri, 04 Jul 2008 13:14:34 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79405 [...] 4. Joanne Jacobs: Rich and rejected in Manhattan Not a single student at Dalton, an elite Manhattan private school, was accepted at Harvard this year. For $31,200 in tuition a year, parents are peeved, reports the New York Post. Marymount, a private girls school also struck out on Harvard admissions. [...] [...] 4. Joanne Jacobs: Rich and rejected in Manhattan Not a single student at Dalton, an elite Manhattan private school, was accepted at Harvard this year. For $31,200 in tuition a year, parents are peeved, reports the New York Post. Marymount, a private girls school also struck out on Harvard admissions. [...]

]]> By: superdestroyer http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79402 superdestroyer Fri, 04 Jul 2008 11:41:20 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79402 What those parents at Dalton know is that if there children attend Johns Hopkins or VAnderbilt, that some of the highest paying jobs in NYC are out of reach of the children. The entry level positions at McKinsey basically requries a degree from Harvard, Yale, or Princeton. What those parents at Dalton know is that if there children attend Johns Hopkins or VAnderbilt, that some of the highest paying jobs in NYC are out of reach of the children. The entry level positions at McKinsey basically requries a degree from Harvard, Yale, or Princeton.

]]> By: Dizzy’s Ten Post Round-Up :: The Sirens Chronicles http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79399 Dizzy’s Ten Post Round-Up :: The Sirens Chronicles Fri, 04 Jul 2008 07:01:15 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79399 [...] 4. Joanne Jacobs: Rich and rejected in Manhattan Not a single student at Dalton, an elite Manhattan private school, was accepted at Harvard this year. For $31,200 in tuition a year, parents are peeved, reports the New York Post. Marymount, a private girls school also struck out on Harvard admissions. [...] [...] 4. Joanne Jacobs: Rich and rejected in Manhattan Not a single student at Dalton, an elite Manhattan private school, was accepted at Harvard this year. For $31,200 in tuition a year, parents are peeved, reports the New York Post. Marymount, a private girls school also struck out on Harvard admissions. [...]

]]> By: Mark Roulo http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79398 Mark Roulo Fri, 04 Jul 2008 01:25:59 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79398 <blockquote> I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy. </blockquote> I suspect that a lot of the feelings expressed in the comments are similar to watching the NY Yankees outspend everyone and still not win the world series. Even if they are a better team than the team that wins the world series, if the team that wins has only 1/2 the payroll, it can be hard to root for the Yankees. At $31,200 per year for four years, plus (for some) $46,000 for a "private guidance counselor" we are looking at about $200K over four years. I suspect that a bunch of these kids didn't go to public schools for K-8, either, so we might be looking at something more like $400K-$500K over the K-12 years. This compares to some kids who go to public schools and can't/won't/don't afford the $46K for the private guidance counselor. Then the $200K-$500K just wasn't enough. So you have to use "personal connections" to get your kid into a top-20 college. Feels a lot like the parents are basically trying to purchase their child's way into Harvard/Yale/Princeton. And failing (but still have to pay the bill, of course). From here it feels a lot like a David-Goliath issue, even though there is no visible David. Since I didn't go to an Ivy and didn't want to (no beach at any of the Ivies ...), I find this 10+ year charge to get into one of a handful of colleges (for an undergraduate education, no less!) absolutely hysterical to watch. It gets even funnier when spending all that money doesn't "work." -Mark Roulo

I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy.

I suspect that a lot of the feelings expressed in the comments are similar to watching the NY Yankees outspend everyone and still not win the world series. Even if they are a better team than the team that wins the world series, if the team that wins has only 1/2 the payroll, it can be hard to root for the Yankees.

At $31,200 per year for four years, plus (for some) $46,000 for a “private guidance counselor” we are looking at about $200K over four years. I suspect that a bunch of these kids didn’t go to public schools for K-8, either, so we might be looking at something more like $400K-$500K over the K-12 years. This compares to some kids who go to public schools and can’t/won’t/don’t afford the $46K for the private guidance counselor.

Then the $200K-$500K just wasn’t enough. So you have to use “personal connections” to get your kid into a top-20 college. Feels a lot like the parents are basically trying to purchase their child’s way into Harvard/Yale/Princeton. And failing (but still have to pay the bill, of course).

From here it feels a lot like a David-Goliath issue, even though there is no visible David.

Since I didn’t go to an Ivy and didn’t want to (no beach at any of the Ivies …), I find this 10+ year charge to get into one of a handful of colleges (for an undergraduate education, no less!) absolutely hysterical to watch. It gets even funnier when spending all that money doesn’t “work.”

-Mark Roulo

]]> By: Darren http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79393 Darren Fri, 04 Jul 2008 00:12:42 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79393 I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy. I hope the comments above come from a desire to have all students judged on their academic merits and *not* from class envy.

]]> By: BadaBing http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79389 BadaBing Thu, 03 Jul 2008 21:42:12 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79389 It's a bitch being rich. It’s a bitch being rich.

]]> By: Me http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79385 Me Thu, 03 Jul 2008 18:00:47 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79385 Well, this article made me laugh. Does this make me an awful person? Let me play the world's smallest violin... Well, this article made me laugh. Does this make me an awful person?

Let me play the world’s smallest violin…

]]> By: JE http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79375 JE Thu, 03 Jul 2008 12:57:26 +0000 http://joannejacobs.com/2008/07/03/rich-and-rejected-in-manhattan/#comment-79375 forgive my only response to the super-rich who can't buy their way into the Ivies being sarcastically mimed crying. forgive my only response to the super-rich who can’t buy their way into the Ivies being sarcastically mimed crying.

]]>