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Writer's pictureJoanne Jacobs

Who will make the best teacher? An ex-Marine or a Middlebury grad?

Military veterans with 60 college credits can qualify for a five-year temporary teaching certificate in Florida, under a new law championed by Gov. Ron DeSantis.

Some 538 vets have applied, but only seven are working as teachers, the state education department told Military.com. The state certification process is holding up would-be teachers: They must pass exams or submit coursework to show they've mastered subject-matter knowledge. Once on the job, they'll have five years to complete a bachelor's degree and earn certification.


"The self-discipline, adaptability, sense of mission over self, and ability to work under highly stressful conditions that military service impresses upon soldiers" are good preparation for teaching, writes Robert Pondiscio in Commentary. "If you ask me who I’d rather have in front of my child’s classroom, a teacher fresh out of the Marine Corps or one out of Middlebury, I’ll take my chances with the jarhead."


Teachers are expected to learn on the job, he writes. Only 7 percent of district superintendents and 13 percent of principals think certification guarantees that a teacher “has what it takes” to be effective in the classroom, according to Rick Hess of the American Enterprise Institute.

DeSantis' idea insults teachers who've worked hard to obtain advanced degrees and certification, said Randi Weingarten, who heads the American Federation of Teachers. It shows “utter contempt for the teaching profession,” said Diane Ravitch.

"If anyone is insulting teachers and showing them utter contempt, it’s ed schools, which wield monopoly power over teacher licensure," responds Pondiscio. These "cash cows" have refused "to take seriously their obligation to ensure that teachers are ready to the degree humanly possible for classroom competence."

“Parents who proudly bring their children to school on the first day of kindergarten are making a big mistake: They assume that their child’s teacher has been taught how to teach reading. They haven’t,” writes Mark Seidenberg, a cognitive neuroscientist at the University of Wisconsin-Madison in his 2017 book Language at the Speed of Sight. “The principal function of schools of education is to socialize prospective teachers into an ideology — a set of beliefs about children, the nature of education, and the teacher’s role.”
Kate Walsh, the former head of the National Council on Teacher Quality (NCTQ) and a long-time ed-school Torquemada, has described this as “not unlike the transformation of Pinocchio from puppet to real boy,” with ed schools aiming to “confront and expunge the prejudices of teacher candidates, particularly those related to race, class, language, and culture.”

Troops to Teachers, which requires a bachelor's degree, has been around for decades, though the Defense Department killed it last year and then was forced by Congress to restart it.

11 Comments


mikeegan43
Dec 20, 2022

I was career military, now work in a school district. Many of the skills are transferable. At one interview, I was asked what was the first class I taught?


"Assembly/Disassembly of the M203 grenade launcher." I was 19.


Largest Class? "15000 soldiers for a Change of Command ceremony."


Teaching high school? Lotta Similiarities.

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Guest
Dec 20, 2022

"Most of the military will last a year or two. "


How specific --- NOT. Okay, how percent of the graduates of ed school last longer? Longer being four to six years -- before leaving teaching to marry, or sell real estate or life insurance, or any of the hundreds of other careers one finds occupied by those who once stood in front of a classroom?


ANYhow, what I'd like to see and believe would make more of an improvement would be for districts to hunt down and hire retired military officers at ranks of O-6 or higher (Army Colonel and comparable) who have had responsibilities as "community commanders". These people ran the installations -- schools, housing, sewers, mess halls…

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Dec 21, 2022
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School districts are one of the few entities that allow women to vest for retiree medical, and they have a better chance of not losing that coverage when they age in to it than if they worked in private industry. Haven't seen too employees many leave for real estate or life insurance sales; mostly that's done part time during the school year, and full time over the summer. Mostly I've seen employees wait for their ship to come in, jumping to federal or other state jobs that have more advancement potential ... if they have children, they may switch to a govt job that has has part-time hours or easy day care access while the children are birth to …

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Guest
Dec 20, 2022

When I started teaching--on an emergency credential, so no teacher training at all--I fell back on my military training. In the army, the training cycle was Plan, Prepare, Execute, Assess. Sound like it would work for teaching students? It did, and still does.

--mrmillermathteacher

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Guest
Dec 20, 2022

Whenever this topic comes up, I point out that homeschool co-ops are full of people who teach wonderful classes who could not be hired to teach in a public school. I've got a PhD in a STEM field, taught part time at a community college for a few years, and have taught biology at our co-op for a decade. Despite it not being an AP class, I've had several students pass the AP exam over the years. And yet, I couldn't get hired to teach high school biology in most states without further training. For younger kids, some of our most effective teachers have no courses in education, and some may not have college degrees at all. Some vets l…

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Dec 21, 2022
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When I started 10 years ago, I would have agreed. At this point, we seem to have a bimodal distribution. My good students are doing as well as or better than ever, and I'm also failing more students and dealing with more cheating than ever. The homeschool community has changed a lot. I have heard from 2 parents in the past few days who had no idea that their child has not turned in anything for the past 12 weeks. Other long-term teachers are seeing the same thing. We're also seeing more parents decide to 'homeschool' and not realized that many kids can't work independently with nobody checking up on them. I've also volunteered for the past decade at afte…

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Guest
Dec 20, 2022

Most of the military will last a year or two. What works with volunteers in the military does not work with students who are forced to go to school when they do not want to go.

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Dec 20, 2022
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I knew too many people in the military who talked about wanting to be a teacher but what they wanted was to teach the AP/IB classes and to avoid the remedial classes. Of course, what many of them did not know is that remedial classes are entry level.

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